Comments on: Does Tweety have a secondary consciousness? Self-awareness in birds, mirror neurons, evolution and the mystery of consciousness

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By: Frank Kalich

Frank Kalich — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 08:35:05 +0000

I sound obnoxious above, I was in an emotional state as the mirror test is bogus and justifies eating mammal meat. I don’t tell others what to do, but I never eat mammal meat, as they are conscious beings, whereas birds and fish are little more than biological robots. I have had 8 cats, one of them from early age would jump on the counter and stare at herself in the mirror for as long as 10 minutes. The other 7 showed no interest. My dog showed interest in a mirror the first time he saw one, after that he could care less. Perhaps he is smart enough to know it is of no importance, just a reflection, like his ancestors saw in lakes. Most neurologists do not believe any animal lacking a neocortex has a conscious self to much of a degree. Over time I have learned to discount the interpretations of psychologists who lack a very firm grounding in the latest neurological research, other than those who are referred to by neurological researchers. Good site, this is what makes internet have value. But the mirror test is bogus.

By: Frank Kalich

Frank Kalich — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:18:43 +0000

One more thing. There are people with damage to area 17 in the back of the head who will tell you they are blind. But they can catch a ball. If you ask them to point to a light, they will correctly 99% of the time. But they will insist that they can’t see a thing. You don’t need consciousness, self awareness to survive as a species. But it is clear that it is rooted in the mammal neocortex. Why would you think only our species has some special neo cortex? The test is just laughable, that anyone would take that as a serious test of this, it makes no sense to make that assumption. The magpie could clearly do the same thing on automatic, with no self awareness of this. Vision is their primary sense. Not so in most mammals. I highly doubt anything but a higher mammal has much of a sense of self awareness, not more than a flicker in a bird. But there is probably a bit there.

By: Frank Kalich

Frank Kalich — Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:10:44 +0000

I feel that neurologist researchers have a better feel for this kind of thing. Most feel that the sense of self lies in the neocortex, exclusive to mammals. The mirror test is laughable, give it up. Any dog person knows that smell is much more significant. Heck, I point out the rabbits visually to my dog at night. A dog has a proportionately large neocortex, they are conscious and have s sense of self. The question is whether other families have this. I would say it is limited, most are pretty much on automatic mode. You don’t need consciousness to pass the silly mirror test, that is just goofy, I don’t think many neurologists who are up on things put much credibility in that.

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By: Janice L. Messer

Janice L. Messer — Wed, 29 Dec 2010 14:31:14 +0000

It is interesting that you anthropomorhized Tweety as ‘he’. Rather, should it not be regarded as a ’she’, given the well established gender differences in brain structure? Is it not a ‘fact’ that females are more naturally empathic than males – or at least achieve this ability earlier as their corpus colassum matures sooner?

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By: soy sause

soy sause — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:37:25 +0000

i believe that dogs are self aware i put my dog in front of the mirror and she doesn’t bark or worry about it at all she will occasionally lick the mirror if she gets close enough but she seems to recognize that it is herself there and not some other dog and it has been this way since she was a puppy i would put her in front of the mirror and she would look and lick her reflection but if another dog gets in front of her she barks and bites them what does that mean i would think she is self aware.

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By: Encefalus

Encefalus — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 09:16:50 +0000

I agree that mankind makes extraordinary axiomatic claims about itself. I have written a few things on that at http://encefalus.com/philosophical/clinical-psychology-sucks/ . However, we have to take one way or the other, that is, either suppose that our condition is special or it is not. By our limited means, we have theorized that our condition is special and we are studying consciousness from this perspective. The only thing that we can do is to try to follow this path and see what comes out of it.

I also agree with you on the biological side of the thing. This research with magpies proves that our assumptions about the cortex making us special are false. However, we don’t have sufficient evidence for either case.

Anyway, my opinion is that the methodology I described above is a lot like physics in the 19th century. At that century they believed that deterministic models can explain everything. And they did, until they stumbled upon the anomalies of planetary orbits, that led to the integration of stochastic models of mathematics and a new paradigm shift. Perhaps the same will happen with the study of consciousness.

By: Keith Allpress

Keith Allpress — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:01:12 +0000

And by the way there of course is a massive reason to suggest that we might not be unique in the basic nature of experience, and it is called biology.

By: Keith Allpress

Keith Allpress — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:46:23 +0000

Hang on a minute, I think we do need to deconstruct this idea in order to try to be scientific. Let us not forget that this is a highly anthropocentric concept – it is attached to a species that is notoriously well known to claim a special statuses for itself (axiomatically) and to then enshrine them in language terms. Perhaps it simply isn’t popular/acceptable to consider alternatives?