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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 06:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff - we need more of this!
As I see it - the conscious brain has evolved (i.e. by chance) to try and make sense out of nonsense, so as to increase our chances of survival.  [Before consciousness, our distant ancestors did pretty well without trying to do this at all.] The neurology of our conscious brain tries to turn sense data, received from a findamentally indeterminate external world into shape by organising it into patterns, images, ideas, concepts, laws &amp;c. In this way we construct knowledge of the world, whcih seems to suggest cause and effect, whereas if we looked closely enough we would find only indeterminacy and chaos.  It&#039;s been a risky business trying to do this because, when we look more objectively at the state of the world, with all the conflict, competition and psychological problems we&#039;ve created, using our so-called intillegence to &#039;understand&#039; chaos, in order to improve our chances of survival, hasn&#039;t been a very successful process.  Is Homo sapiens any more successful in surviving than any of the other speices.  I doubt it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff &#8211; we need more of this!<br />
As I see it &#8211; the conscious brain has evolved (i.e. by chance) to try and make sense out of nonsense, so as to increase our chances of survival.  [Before consciousness, our distant ancestors did pretty well without trying to do this at all.] The neurology of our conscious brain tries to turn sense data, received from a findamentally indeterminate external world into shape by organising it into patterns, images, ideas, concepts, laws &amp;c. In this way we construct knowledge of the world, whcih seems to suggest cause and effect, whereas if we looked closely enough we would find only indeterminacy and chaos.  It&#8217;s been a risky business trying to do this because, when we look more objectively at the state of the world, with all the conflict, competition and psychological problems we&#8217;ve created, using our so-called intillegence to &#8216;understand&#8217; chaos, in order to improve our chances of survival, hasn&#8217;t been a very successful process.  Is Homo sapiens any more successful in surviving than any of the other speices.  I doubt it.</p>
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		<title>By: mc</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 00:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once I originally commented I clicked the -Notify me when new feedback are added- checkbox and now each time a comment is added I get 4 emails with the identical comment. Is there any means you&#039;ll be able to take away me from that service? Thanks!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Verla Demianczyk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Verla Demianczyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2010 23:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Habibies</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lenard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 22:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am reading a lot about environmental management and complexity.

It seems like the interaction between the basic building blocks that make us individuals is what creates the complex system. I have not read much about computational models for social life, however, my understanding of complexity is that it is inherently not completely predictable, hence it is complex. 

What I find interesting is the notion of self-organization. 
Why are we interested in knowing what will happen? Is it our desire to be able to shape a &quot;perfect&quot; system? I think the answer to a &quot;perfect&quot; system lies at Self-organization. We have to rethink our idea of command and control and the systemic outcomes of that control. In self-organization you purposefully step back and let history or the system take it&#039;s own course. Dave Guerra is writing stuff about complexity in organizations, also very thought provoking.

Stephen Hawking says complexity is the science of the 21st century. 
My intuition says that many questions will be answered through it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reading a lot about environmental management and complexity.</p>
<p>It seems like the interaction between the basic building blocks that make us individuals is what creates the complex system. I have not read much about computational models for social life, however, my understanding of complexity is that it is inherently not completely predictable, hence it is complex. </p>
<p>What I find interesting is the notion of self-organization.<br />
Why are we interested in knowing what will happen? Is it our desire to be able to shape a &#8220;perfect&#8221; system? I think the answer to a &#8220;perfect&#8221; system lies at Self-organization. We have to rethink our idea of command and control and the systemic outcomes of that control. In self-organization you purposefully step back and let history or the system take it&#8217;s own course. Dave Guerra is writing stuff about complexity in organizations, also very thought provoking.</p>
<p>Stephen Hawking says complexity is the science of the 21st century.<br />
My intuition says that many questions will be answered through it.</p>
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